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		<title>By: What You Might Be Missing at Starbucks &#124; Thoughts about Nothing*com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What You Might Be Missing at Starbucks &#124; Thoughts about Nothing*com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but I really feel like Starbucks looks a lot like church. I have talked about this in the past (Starbucks and Christianity) but I feel now more then ever that there are some lessons that can be learned in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but I really feel like Starbucks looks a lot like church. I have talked about this in the past (Starbucks and Christianity) but I feel now more then ever that there are some lessons that can be learned in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2919</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically what Mark said. Starbucks - here in the Midwest - is where the hip scene-sters go with their Macs (guilty), and Caribou is where the people who think those people are snobby go. :) More or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically what Mark said. Starbucks &#8211; here in the Midwest &#8211; is where the hip scene-sters go with their Macs (guilty), and Caribou is where the people who think those people are snobby go. :) More or less.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Blake</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2917</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caribou is Starbucks, but from the North-Midwest. More or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caribou is Starbucks, but from the North-Midwest. More or less.</p>
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		<title>By: @kylelreed</title>
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		<dc:creator>@kylelreed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably is Christians and Coffee, seeing how it has replaced Mountain Dew as the nectar from the gods. &lt;br&gt;What is Caribou?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably is Christians and Coffee, seeing how it has replaced Mountain Dew as the nectar from the gods. <br />What is Caribou?</p>
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		<title>By: @kylelreed</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2915</link>
		<dc:creator>@kylelreed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always said that if I worked at a church I would take a coffee shop as my office. Don&#039;t need an office space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always said that if I worked at a church I would take a coffee shop as my office. Don&#39;t need an office space.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2912</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark nailed it - and then some - but I have to say I was wondering the same thing recently ... but about Caribou. I don&#039;t really like Caribou, but a friend of mine does so I&#039;m always meeting her there. And there are always Bible studies and Christian conversations going on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe it&#039;s just Christians and coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark nailed it &#8211; and then some &#8211; but I have to say I was wondering the same thing recently &#8230; but about Caribou. I don&#39;t really like Caribou, but a friend of mine does so I&#39;m always meeting her there. And there are always Bible studies and Christian conversations going on.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#39;s just Christians and coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: brianbarela</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianbarela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kyle the 12 starbucks that we have in my small town of chico are all populated by church people. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i try to go the coffee shops that look completely unappealing but have great coffee and wifi knowing that most church people will stay away. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it is a great &quot;office,&quot; especially if you work in a church w less than average office facilities, and like to meet people out in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kyle the 12 starbucks that we have in my small town of chico are all populated by church people. </p>
<p>i try to go the coffee shops that look completely unappealing but have great coffee and wifi knowing that most church people will stay away. </p>
<p>it is a great &#8220;office,&#8221; especially if you work in a church w less than average office facilities, and like to meet people out in public.</p>
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		<title>By: @kylelreed</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2908</link>
		<dc:creator>@kylelreed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it, good thoughts here. &lt;br&gt;You are right about it being everywhere in suburbia. &lt;br&gt;Availability and comfort seem to dominate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it, good thoughts here. <br />You are right about it being everywhere in suburbia. <br />Availability and comfort seem to dominate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Blake</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2897</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it has as much to do with Starbucks itself as much as it has to do with the availability of a place like Starbucks and the type of work that is done in ministry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, I think that the primary reason that Starbucks is &#039;it&#039; is because Starbucks is everywhere in Suburbia. It is the symbol of suburban excess, our $4.65 latte in the morning and at night. And Starbucks is everywhere. Because it has the financial reach of a huge multinational corporation, it can afford to open hundreds and hundreds of stores everywhere, including the farthest suburb. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So you&#039;ve got the service industry - including Starbucks - in the suburbs and you&#039;ve got the churches in the suburbs because that&#039;s where all of the people are on the weekends.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People in ministry have a very interesting work environment - they are only &quot;open for business&quot; on Sundays, Wednesdays, and when they have events, and while they may have offices they might not have office hours that they must adhere to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So these lucky ministry folks have the ability - for the most part - to work from wherever they want.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In general, you wouldn&#039;t go to a sit-down restaurant to get some work done for a long period of time. Nor would you go to a park - no wifi, the weather might happen, etc. Some deli&#039;s like McAlister&#039;s or Jason&#039;s do have wifi and because there is no table service, staying for long periods of time is not shunned. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But where are you going to go if you aren&#039;t that hungry and don&#039;t want to spend much money - comparatively? A coffee shop. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And Starbucks is usually your only - if not one of the very few - options because the spread-out nature of Suburbia makes it hard for independent coffee shops - with limited brand recognition, advertising budgets, etc. - to survive.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All that to say - I don&#039;t think that there is anything particularly special about Starbucks that draws church-folk there, I think that Starbucks fills a niche and that people will go to whatever establishment fills that niche.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sure church-folk go to a lot more varied coffee shops in locations where choice exist. Here in Tyler, we have a fantastic coffee shop called Caffe Tazza - it blows Starbucks out of the water. A lot of my people go there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think it is all about the availability of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think it has as much to do with Starbucks itself as much as it has to do with the availability of a place like Starbucks and the type of work that is done in ministry.</p>
<p>First, I think that the primary reason that Starbucks is &#39;it&#39; is because Starbucks is everywhere in Suburbia. It is the symbol of suburban excess, our $4.65 latte in the morning and at night. And Starbucks is everywhere. Because it has the financial reach of a huge multinational corporation, it can afford to open hundreds and hundreds of stores everywhere, including the farthest suburb. </p>
<p>So you&#39;ve got the service industry &#8211; including Starbucks &#8211; in the suburbs and you&#39;ve got the churches in the suburbs because that&#39;s where all of the people are on the weekends.</p>
<p>People in ministry have a very interesting work environment &#8211; they are only &#8220;open for business&#8221; on Sundays, Wednesdays, and when they have events, and while they may have offices they might not have office hours that they must adhere to.</p>
<p>So these lucky ministry folks have the ability &#8211; for the most part &#8211; to work from wherever they want.</p>
<p>In general, you wouldn&#39;t go to a sit-down restaurant to get some work done for a long period of time. Nor would you go to a park &#8211; no wifi, the weather might happen, etc. Some deli&#39;s like McAlister&#39;s or Jason&#39;s do have wifi and because there is no table service, staying for long periods of time is not shunned. </p>
<p>But where are you going to go if you aren&#39;t that hungry and don&#39;t want to spend much money &#8211; comparatively? A coffee shop. </p>
<p>And Starbucks is usually your only &#8211; if not one of the very few &#8211; options because the spread-out nature of Suburbia makes it hard for independent coffee shops &#8211; with limited brand recognition, advertising budgets, etc. &#8211; to survive.</p>
<p>All that to say &#8211; I don&#39;t think that there is anything particularly special about Starbucks that draws church-folk there, I think that Starbucks fills a niche and that people will go to whatever establishment fills that niche.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sure church-folk go to a lot more varied coffee shops in locations where choice exist. Here in Tyler, we have a fantastic coffee shop called Caffe Tazza &#8211; it blows Starbucks out of the water. A lot of my people go there.</p>
<p>I think it is all about the availability of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: @kylelreed</title>
		<link>http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/starbucks-and-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-2896</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be funny if starbucks went out of business because christians took over the place and ran off all their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be funny if starbucks went out of business because christians took over the place and ran off all their customers.</p>
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